Is the Supreme Court decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health a death sentence for women of color? The overturning of Roe v. Wade not only creates an abortion disaster for millions of Americans, it also exacerbates a maternal healthcare crisis that's already deadly for women of color. African American women are shockingly likely to die or almost die in pregnancy and childbirth, New York Times contributor Linda Villarosa discovered, and that's true regardless of their health, education and wealth. What's their future now that more women will be forced to carry more babies to term against their will? Linda Villarosa's new book is Under the Skin: The Hidden Toll of Racism on American Lives and on the Health of Our Nation. She's also a professor at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at the City University of New York with a joint appointment at City College. "If we think of the end of Roe v. Wade, as the end of abortion only, that is way too limited. Abortion is not a single issue. Abortion is a constellation of having no access to abortion, it is about reproduction and even healthcare at this point, broadly and not narrowly." - Linda Villarosa. "The Black feminist demand hasn't changed. It's those three elements: the right to have a child, the right not to have a child and the right - if you choose to have a child - to have a safe, healthy environment." - Linda Villarosa. Guests: Linda Villarosa: Author, Under the Skin: The Hidden Toll of Racism on American Lives & On the Health of Our Nation.